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	<title>Comments on: Organic Logic</title>
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	<description>Vegetable Fruit &#38; Herb Growing on my Allotment</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 23:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem to &#039;swing&#039; we went from natural to chemical  where NPK and a spray for everything was the way to grow and now we&#039;ve swung back  I&#039;ve nothing against an organic approach but let&#039;s apply some logic and sense.
As for splinter groups - well I&#039;ve always said that 3 gardeners will give you 4 opinions on any given topic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem to &#8217;swing&#8217; we went from natural to chemical  where NPK and a spray for everything was the way to grow and now we&#8217;ve swung back  I&#8217;ve nothing against an organic approach but let&#8217;s apply some logic and sense.<br />
As for splinter groups &#8211; well I&#8217;ve always said that 3 gardeners will give you 4 opinions on any given topic!</p>
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		<title>By: yewtreemob</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>yewtreemob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree John.  Common sense (rather than religious fervour)  was what good gardeners used to be known for.  I also think that the organic movement (and the whole environmental movement) has lost it&#039;s way.  Most people think organic means poison free (which it doesn&#039;t) and that it means local (which unfortunately it often isn&#039;t) and that it means better tasting (if only).  Some organic splinter groups eg the &quot;stockfree&quot; organic movement do very good research rediscovering things gardners and farmers once knew but have forgotten!  It didn&#039;t use to have a label (ok maybe it was called &quot;good idea&quot;or &quot;common sense&quot;) but now it has a system name.

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree John.  Common sense (rather than religious fervour)  was what good gardeners used to be known for.  I also think that the organic movement (and the whole environmental movement) has lost it&#8217;s way.  Most people think organic means poison free (which it doesn&#8217;t) and that it means local (which unfortunately it often isn&#8217;t) and that it means better tasting (if only).  Some organic splinter groups eg the &#8220;stockfree&#8221; organic movement do very good research rediscovering things gardners and farmers once knew but have forgotten!  It didn&#8217;t use to have a label (ok maybe it was called &#8220;good idea&#8221;or &#8220;common sense&#8221;) but now it has a system name.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ClaireMc 
I wouldn&#039;t call it war on nature - more manipulation. Adjusting the natural order for our needs.  You don&#039;t need a ray gun - but a flame thrower (weed gun) is both useful and fun. At least for the men because we&#039;re all boys at heart and love fires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ClaireMc<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t call it war on nature &#8211; more manipulation. Adjusting the natural order for our needs.  You don&#8217;t need a ray gun &#8211; but a flame thrower (weed gun) is both useful and fun. At least for the men because we&#8217;re all boys at heart and love fires.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaireMc</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>ClaireMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to gardening this year and the most surprising thing I&#039;ve learned is that to grow veggies you have to declare war on nature - pulling up weeds, building barriers against birds and butterflies and the weather, holding things back or bringing them on.  We haven&#039;t had to resort to chemicals yet but if my tender little plants come under seious attack I can see myself losing all reason and buying a ray gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to gardening this year and the most surprising thing I&#8217;ve learned is that to grow veggies you have to declare war on nature &#8211; pulling up weeds, building barriers against birds and butterflies and the weather, holding things back or bringing them on.  We haven&#8217;t had to resort to chemicals yet but if my tender little plants come under seious attack I can see myself losing all reason and buying a ray gun.</p>
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		<title>By: TopVeg</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>TopVeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 20:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a relief to read some real common sense about organic gardening.  I agree with you wholeheartedly.  One reason for growing veg is because you know how they have been grown, &amp; what they have been treated with.  Traceability is not taken seriuosly in the shops &amp; I just don&#039;t trust people who think that looks are more important than safety and taste.

What can be do with all those TV chefs who say buy an organic...........
Thewy don&#039;t understand the meaning of the word

TopVeg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a relief to read some real common sense about organic gardening.  I agree with you wholeheartedly.  One reason for growing veg is because you know how they have been grown, &amp; what they have been treated with.  Traceability is not taken seriuosly in the shops &amp; I just don&#8217;t trust people who think that looks are more important than safety and taste.</p>
<p>What can be do with all those TV chefs who say buy an organic&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Thewy don&#8217;t understand the meaning of the word</p>
<p>TopVeg</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shaun, 
At least I&#039;ve one visitor left!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shaun,<br />
At least I&#8217;ve one visitor left!</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/39/organic-logic/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john that is realy speaking sense thankyou shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john that is realy speaking sense thankyou shaun</p>
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