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	<description>Vegetable Fruit &#38; Herb Growing on my Allotment</description>
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		<title>By: ThebigWakeup</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-7139</link>
		<dc:creator>ThebigWakeup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example why chemicals in any form are a bad idea.. Artificial is never good.. When will ppl learn! My guess is never when theres a profit to be made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example why chemicals in any form are a bad idea.. Artificial is never good.. When will ppl learn! My guess is never when theres a profit to be made!</p>
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		<title>By: Aminopyralid Contaminated Manure &#124; Prudhoe Gardeners&#039; Association</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6972</link>
		<dc:creator>Aminopyralid Contaminated Manure &#124; Prudhoe Gardeners&#039; Association</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] contaminated manure in 2008 along with pictures of stunted growth on potatoes in particular can be found on this link. Similar effects can be seen on cucumbers, courgettes, tomatoes and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] contaminated manure in 2008 along with pictures of stunted growth on potatoes in particular can be found on this link. Similar effects can be seen on cucumbers, courgettes, tomatoes and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6244</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried reading For help on coping with contaminated manure : &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/273/aminopyralid-contaminated-manure/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What to do with Aminopyralid Contaminated Manure &lt;/a&gt;that is referred to in the main post at the start of this entry?

There is no magic bullet, just keep mixing with top soil until the microbes eat the darned stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried reading For help on coping with contaminated manure : <a href="http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/273/aminopyralid-contaminated-manure/" rel="nofollow">What to do with Aminopyralid Contaminated Manure </a>that is referred to in the main post at the start of this entry?</p>
<p>There is no magic bullet, just keep mixing with top soil until the microbes eat the darned stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley Downie</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley Downie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any way I can speed up the decontamination of the soil
and should contaminated crops be dug up and burned or what??? 
crops that dont show signs but have also been fed the same compost made with contaminated manure are also presumable affected even though there is nothing visible 
any advice experience welcome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any way I can speed up the decontamination of the soil<br />
and should contaminated crops be dug up and burned or what???<br />
crops that dont show signs but have also been fed the same compost made with contaminated manure are also presumable affected even though there is nothing visible<br />
any advice experience welcome</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hit bad in 2008 and decided to source my own manure this year instead of going throigh the council...Well the muck I found was five years old and almost looked like compost. I had a couple of loads delivered and everyone on the lottie commented how good it was so they had loads...And yep, the herbicide is still present even after 5 years...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hit bad in 2008 and decided to source my own manure this year instead of going throigh the council&#8230;Well the muck I found was five years old and almost looked like compost. I had a couple of loads delivered and everyone on the lottie commented how good it was so they had loads&#8230;And yep, the herbicide is still present even after 5 years&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Brickell</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6169</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Brickell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob

Did B&amp;Q take any responsibility for your crop failures - they&#039;re still selling the stuff in 2010 and I now suspect that the compost is the cause of my problems rather than the manure I applied as others manure users crops appear to be fine, at least their potatoes are looking good.  I didn&#039;t see any toms or squashes on their allotments, so can&#039;t tell what is/isn&#039;t affected, but I used 50:50 B&amp;Q&#039;s peat free with my own homemade compost for sowing and potting on ALL my plants this year.  some appear much worse affected than others and suprisingly the beans appear the worst of the lot even though they had the shortest time &amp; amount of the stuff before going out in the ground.  toms and aubergines which were successively potted on in the same mix before being put in well manured soil appeared  to be doing just fine and only recently Ailsa Craig toms are showing effects while other varieties look well.  My affected plants show different effects - leaf curling (toms broad beans and french/dwarf beans), yellow leaves and no growth (peas and some toms), wilting and dying off with rotted stems (squashes) so I&#039;m still unsure whether it is manure or B&amp;Q compost.  all very strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob</p>
<p>Did B&amp;Q take any responsibility for your crop failures &#8211; they&#8217;re still selling the stuff in 2010 and I now suspect that the compost is the cause of my problems rather than the manure I applied as others manure users crops appear to be fine, at least their potatoes are looking good.  I didn&#8217;t see any toms or squashes on their allotments, so can&#8217;t tell what is/isn&#8217;t affected, but I used 50:50 B&amp;Q&#8217;s peat free with my own homemade compost for sowing and potting on ALL my plants this year.  some appear much worse affected than others and suprisingly the beans appear the worst of the lot even though they had the shortest time &amp; amount of the stuff before going out in the ground.  toms and aubergines which were successively potted on in the same mix before being put in well manured soil appeared  to be doing just fine and only recently Ailsa Craig toms are showing effects while other varieties look well.  My affected plants show different effects &#8211; leaf curling (toms broad beans and french/dwarf beans), yellow leaves and no growth (peas and some toms), wilting and dying off with rotted stems (squashes) so I&#8217;m still unsure whether it is manure or B&amp;Q compost.  all very strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Brickell</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6168</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Brickell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve just discovered what the problem in my garden is - finally.  The variation in effect is what has been confusing me.  However the source is still unknown.  Other allotment owners have been using the manure heap I applied this year for a couple of years - I checked out their veggies and all brassicas thriving, pots all look great, but one fellows broad beans, while tall and looking reasonable, showed some tops leaf curling that totally ruined my crop.  My squashes fail to thrive and some just wilted off and died. toms were looking great there for a bit, but now the tops are all curling.  All the leafy greens are just fine, including my lettuces.
I now suspect that the peat-free B&amp;Q compost is the culprit, but wonder why the beans are major sufferers when legumes can fix nitrogen for themselves.  guess this poison not only interferes with uptake of N, but also with its metabolism.
Main question is - what is/is not safe to eat - if the crop looks great, like my brassicas, should I still not eat it, or is it OK cooked?  I&#039;ve been consuming loads of lettuce/salads as well as chard,beet spinach, kales and spinach so far.   and now what do we do with our plots???
clas action against B&amp;Q - anyone??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve just discovered what the problem in my garden is &#8211; finally.  The variation in effect is what has been confusing me.  However the source is still unknown.  Other allotment owners have been using the manure heap I applied this year for a couple of years &#8211; I checked out their veggies and all brassicas thriving, pots all look great, but one fellows broad beans, while tall and looking reasonable, showed some tops leaf curling that totally ruined my crop.  My squashes fail to thrive and some just wilted off and died. toms were looking great there for a bit, but now the tops are all curling.  All the leafy greens are just fine, including my lettuces.<br />
I now suspect that the peat-free B&amp;Q compost is the culprit, but wonder why the beans are major sufferers when legumes can fix nitrogen for themselves.  guess this poison not only interferes with uptake of N, but also with its metabolism.<br />
Main question is &#8211; what is/is not safe to eat &#8211; if the crop looks great, like my brassicas, should I still not eat it, or is it OK cooked?  I&#8217;ve been consuming loads of lettuce/salads as well as chard,beet spinach, kales and spinach so far.   and now what do we do with our plots???<br />
clas action against B&amp;Q &#8211; anyone??</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/261/contaminated-manure-aminopyralid-update/#comment-6149</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 22:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have problems with tomatoes in growbags yet my second sowing are ok is the compost that i filled the pots with contaminated.  I used a different compost for my second sowing. The grow bags all came from one source and  purchased in one go how can compost be contaminated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have problems with tomatoes in growbags yet my second sowing are ok is the compost that i filled the pots with contaminated.  I used a different compost for my second sowing. The grow bags all came from one source and  purchased in one go how can compost be contaminated</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not the only one to suffer this year Steve - I have devoted a few pages to this problem on my website which may add some information to that which John has provided.
 
I have set up a new page for 2010 victims reports - as people began to email me describing what was happening to them this year. It&#039;s a page that I hoped wouldn&#039;t be needed. Anyone who would like to have their experiences added is welcome to email me.

I would also contact the CRD and let them know about your problem and DOW&#039;s response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not the only one to suffer this year Steve &#8211; I have devoted a few pages to this problem on my website which may add some information to that which John has provided.</p>
<p>I have set up a new page for 2010 victims reports &#8211; as people began to email me describing what was happening to them this year. It&#8217;s a page that I hoped wouldn&#8217;t be needed. Anyone who would like to have their experiences added is welcome to email me.</p>
<p>I would also contact the CRD and let them know about your problem and DOW&#8217;s response.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found the same problem in my garden this year.  Plants seem to grow but not thrive.  Potatos are curling just like the picture.  Tried to get help from Dow Chemical but all they tell you is that you  need to do a test which consists of growing bean in pots with a control.  If they copme up the same way in the bad soil then you MAY have the problem.  Seems they are afraid opf litigation as they do not want to commit to anything.  All I want is information.  Anyway, it lasts longe than a year as the place where I had manure last year is still killing things.  Even my corn is yellow and dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found the same problem in my garden this year.  Plants seem to grow but not thrive.  Potatos are curling just like the picture.  Tried to get help from Dow Chemical but all they tell you is that you  need to do a test which consists of growing bean in pots with a control.  If they copme up the same way in the bad soil then you MAY have the problem.  Seems they are afraid opf litigation as they do not want to commit to anything.  All I want is information.  Anyway, it lasts longe than a year as the place where I had manure last year is still killing things.  Even my corn is yellow and dying.</p>
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