Tue, 30th October 2007

Insurance - what a scam!

You might not have thought of it this way, but insurance is bet. I bet the insurance company £100 that our house won’t fall down and they give me odds of a 1000 to 1. House burns down and they pay up. Obviously it’s a bit more complex than that, the small print. It’s only fair that I don’t deliberately burn the house down, for example.

But this small print is where the insurance companies vary from the honest betting shop.

Imagine the scene, your horse romped home at 10 to 1 two lengths ahead of the field so you head into Ladbrokes with your ticket to claim your prize. "Ah, sorry but we aren’t going to pay up because the sun was in the horse’s eyes as defined in clause 73, subsection 19 b of the betting terms" How long do you think they would be attracting punters.

But this is precisely what insurance companies do all the time. They look for something in the small print to get out of paying. Some friends of ours had there house burnt down. It was arson, but not by them. Their cat and dog died in the fire and it was only luck that their daughter wasn’t there. Still, the insurance company held off pending the police reports, which you can understand.

OK, my friends ‘won the bet’ so pay up. Well no, first they want a quote for rebuilding and a full list of contents. Understandable but then they proceed to argue every line. It took them nearly six years to settle in full. Six years of letters back and forth, lawyer’s opinions, letters and threats and just blackmail. If you accept a lower figure than you’ve lost we’ll pay up being the subtext.

Of course, we need insurance. The risk of the house burning down is a bet we have to take and when we drive on the road it’s the law, but some insurance just isn’t worth taking. In our post today we’re exhorted to insure against plumbing problems. Apparently, for just £24 a year (against the usual price of £75 a year if we say yes today) we can be covered for the huge bill of fixing our mains pipe if it bursts or repairing a nail through a heating pipe.

So, our bet is £75 to cover an average bill of say £250 if and it’s a big if, something happens. We’ve not had any plumbing done since we moved apart from a new tap so we have saved £325 towards our plumbing fund. Not a good bet to take then.

If you borrow money they try and sell you insurance to cover the loan payments if you are ill or un-employed, often for a limited period as well. The cost is often higher than the loan itself! So not the best of bets there either. And they are notorious for not paying out on those schemes, especially if you have had an illness before. The small print is enough to drive a lawyer to distraction.

So, before you insure ask the following questions:

Do I need it? What is the risk and what would be the cost? Is it a good bet? And if I do ‘win’ will the bees pay up or just look to get out of their obligations.

That’s it - rant over!

 

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Tue, 30th October 2007

James Dougan @ 9:23 pm

Have you tried Martin Lewis’ site?
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/

Wed, 31st October 2007

John @ 9:39 am

Excellent site that, yes I’ve seen it :)

Will @ 10:30 pm

John - you get what you pay for - go with the cheapest quote and you’ll have problems come claim time. Pay a bit more and go with a reputable company and you’ll be fine. Obviously an insurance company will await Police/ Fire Service reports; check rebuilding costs etc but 6 yrs does seem wildly excessive - shd have got a Solicitor to ‘hurry’ them up. I do agree with you re: the sorts of insurance that is offered when you take out a loan or for when you boiler breaks down etc - that is a rip off! And never go thru a broker if you can avoid it - 80% of yr premium will go to the broker and only 20% to the Ins Co - almost always better off to go direct to the insurance co themselves. As you say insurance is abt balancing the risks so if you’ve taken every precaution you shd think to yrself “Wld I be better off just putting this money in the bank each year and ‘underwriting ‘ the risk myself?” If you have a loss then you use the money you wld have paid in insurance prems to replace your loss - I wldnt apply this to building insurance though - contents maybe!

Love the site - keep up the good work.

Thu, 1st November 2007

Ken Chapman @ 4:53 am

I sometimes visit this site to see what is happening in the world of allotments but I really fail to see what insurance has to do with gardening - I am really not interested in your rants and raves about whatever has given you indigestion today! I think I would rather get some more informed comments from a more specialist site if I wanted to. Perhaps people who have dedicated sites maybe run out of ideas, want to try and extend their site into current affairs or whatever - just stick to what you think you know and I for one will visit more often.

John @ 10:25 am

Totally agree with you Will, insuring risks you can underwrite yourself is rarely sensible.
Ken, this is my site. I pay for it and I’ll put what I like on it. If you don’t want to read something then don’t - there’s always a digest to say what any post is about.
Relevant to allotments? When a parish council (West Monkton)is trying to get the plotholders to buy public liability insurance at £80 pa it’s relevant. When you try and insure the contents of your shed it’s relevant and when we have to pay £40 a year for PLI for our NVS meetings held in a pub or a member’s house it’s relevant.

Fri, 9th November 2007

Ken Chapman @ 9:27 pm

John,
Point taken! I just thought you might like some feedback - didn’t realise I had touched a raw nerve.

Thu, 3rd July 2008

Ayesha Wilkinson @ 5:07 pm

Just reading your comments about Allotment Insurance. Unfortunately nowdays the world has gone mad, but more and more councils are recommending that people have their own allotment insurance on their plot. Councils insurance almost always only covers pathways, boundries and fences. The SWCAA (Southwest Counties Allotment Association) is a new not for profit organisation set up to promote and protect our precious allotment sites. As part of our service we offer INDIVIDUALS Pulic and Product Liability Insurance cover for up to 5 million pounds for just £2 per person per year.
A small price for piece of mind in today’s crazy world. If your interested have a look at our website http://www.allotmentssouthwest.org.uk/insurance.htm

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